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قديم 13-12-2008, 09:13 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
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آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

صورالأمام علي والحسين عليهم الصلات والسلام Pictures of Emam 3Ali and Hussain


صورالأمام علي والحسين عليهم الصلات والسلام[/
Pictures of Emam 3Ali and Hussain
(a.s.w)

Is imagination better or pictures and acting?? This is the question

Let me be critical and examine the issue of the pictures of Ahl-al bait (asw)

Firstly I'd like to ask if an important question: Who was the first person to draw Imam 3Ali (asw) or any of the Aema

The Westerners as well as other Muslims critisise the She3a for drawing ahl al bait.

When the prophet Mohammad Caricatures was first published by the Canadian journalist, ofcourse we were all outraged. But later on there were more drawings of the Prophet and the Imams, with nothing that we can actually pinpoint to say they are just mocking the prophet. They knew that by simply attempting to draw any of the holly Muslim characters we would be very upset and opposed, so they played with our emotions that way. The Muslims complained and demanded it should be stopped giving reasons such as Muslims do not draw such characters as their status is just too high and any image drawn of them is offensive no matter how good or bad it is. The Westerners argued that this is not true, showing Persian art and also that of Arabs of Ahl-al bait. They argued that why doesn’t the Muslims become outraged when their people draw them. Ofcourse, a Muslim wouldnt be outraged because we know that a Muslim artist would have a completely different intention than a non-Muslim one. But there is an important point. If a Muslim, even if he had a good intention, drew pictures of ahl al bait that are not correct or misleading, will the Muslim world be outraged? Some Muslims already expressing their disaproval in various Islamic websites, we have the Sunnies talking about the She3a in a very negative way and critising them for their drawings and then some She3as who are condeming this act and saying they too don't agree with this act .

In my opinion I think there should be copy rights for those who draw the Imam. Not anyone who wishes to draw them should have the right to do so. Some of the drawings are inaccurate, and they just don’t look the same as the good ones. Sometimes we’re confused which photo is the accurate one. Yes they all look very similar but they are not the same. If you are an artist or you do art, or just an artistic and critical person you would see that sometimes those photos are very different. There is something called [FONT='Arial','sans-serif']هيبة[/font] [FONT='Arial','sans-serif'] [/font]Haiba” in Arabic. There are many photos that like this

.
Also the acting of the tragedy of Karbala is not that good sometimes! The actor who takes the place of the Imam just doesn’t have the “haiba هيبة ( I thing this is slang, sory i cant think of the proper word J ) the Imam that we have in our minds. This disturbs the imagination of people, especially children. Probably if it’s a movie, at least effects might be added to make it blurry which only helps in creating the imagery of the event. Remember things like the body shape, the posture, the movement... everything those things would be much more special than what is seen by actors.
If you don’t know what I mean have a look at you tube and search google.

Also why don’t we have pictures of all the Imams and why is it so wrong to draw the prophet despite all the de******************ions provided in history books but at the same time it’s ok to draw some of the Imams??? please give your opinion

I am seeing comments by religious She3a people who disagree with the whole idea of acting and drawing of ahl al bait. While others strogly support it and some like me are in the middle. What are the true She3as supposed to believe?! Ofcourse that raises a question of what is a true she3a, Lets just debate on the issue and if anyone knows what marga3ias like al sistani say about the issue please put it forward.

I hope we have many people participating in this disscussion

Thank you

التوقيع :


آخر تعديل بواسطة المستفيد ، 13-12-2008 الساعة 01:14 PM.
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قديم 13-12-2008, 10:08 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

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آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

sorry this is corrected


( Deleted (Repeated topic
I did the necessary correction in the original
Thanks

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آخر تعديل بواسطة المستفيد ، 13-12-2008 الساعة 01:28 PM.
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قديم 15-12-2008, 03:23 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ AlRa7eLe
AlRa7eLe AlRa7eLe غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 62172

تاريخ التّسجيل: Dec 2008

المشاركات: 81

آخر تواجد: 28-07-2010 01:36 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: End Of the world

hi dear , its very hard topic if we want to really talk about it, I 'll be back in other time to get my participation, fully

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الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 15-12-2008, 02:16 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

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آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: AlRa7eLe
hi dear , its very hard topic if we want to really talk about it, I 'll be back in other time to get my participation, fully

Thank you huni for attempting to participate. I can't wait to read what you have to say about this topic. Yes its a hard topic but thats why I joined here to talk about all the things I can't normally talk about somewhere else. Here is where I wish to gain answers to some of the hard questions.. Looking at more opinions and finding convincing explanations..We may not be able to answe or disscuss anything in full detail, it is enough to try ,

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قديم 22-12-2008, 09:35 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ AlRa7eLe
AlRa7eLe AlRa7eLe غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 62172

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آخر تواجد: 28-07-2010 01:36 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: End Of the world

hi again, sory to be late , ba i was a busy a little bit

I think ahl al bait photos, are not only for the expression of respect to them, the contrary, we can express our
respect to them in many other ways

But I think that pictures of ahl al bait are reflect their presence and their memory with us

a few time a go, i wasn't really supporting the idea of these photos just becouse i was thinking that ahl al bait as For their dignity is not permissible for anyone to draw pictures of them ; but when I had read more commonts on the subject, I realized that ahl al bait photos should be very valueable.




This advisory opinion of said. al-Sistani in this regard

Question: What is the validity of photographs of imams (A S)?

Answer: virtual images and to acquire good


http://www.sistani.org/local.php?modules=nav&nid=5&cid=86 : Link


and there is a site that got lots of argument about same subject which is : http://www.ansarh.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1622075&page=2


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قديم 22-12-2008, 12:11 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

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آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

http://www.sistani.org/local.php?modules=nav&nid=5&cid=86 : Link

http://www.ansarh.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1622075&page=2

[/quote]

Thank you very much sweetie, dont be sorry, I know how life is so busy. I'm going to go read whats on those websites carefully and see if it will convince me the way it convinced you,

التوقيع :


آخر تعديل بواسطة haneeen ، 22-12-2008 الساعة 12:16 PM.
الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 22-12-2008, 01:19 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ AlRa7eLe
AlRa7eLe AlRa7eLe غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 62172

تاريخ التّسجيل: Dec 2008

المشاركات: 81

آخر تواجد: 28-07-2010 01:36 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: End Of the world

i'm sure it will do, let me know wats goin on


Incidentally, I did not get the email that u left for me . unfortunately, it was deleted by the supervisor When I arrived

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قـلــــــــــــــ((.....أطـــال ألبكــاء....))ـــــــــــــبً ....


آخر تعديل بواسطة AlRa7eLe ، 22-12-2008 الساعة 01:25 PM.
الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 22-12-2008, 02:29 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

oh are you talking about the time i wanted to send you my email addres? Yeh it got deleted i wanted to send it by private email they dont let me and they dont even let me to read the emails i recieve! This is not an inviting action for new members

About the links. one of the didn't have much info but the second one addressed the issue diractly and presented different opinions which is great, just wat i hoped for in this forum.

oh gosh sister i'm even more torn apart now, both arguments presented are convincing and logical for me! .

التوقيع :

الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 22-12-2008, 02:53 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ AlRa7eLe
AlRa7eLe AlRa7eLe غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 62172

تاريخ التّسجيل: Dec 2008

المشاركات: 81

آخر تواجد: 28-07-2010 01:36 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: End Of the world

Yeh, I know they look very serious in dealing with members , particularly the new ones,
sometimes.

The first link is as what u requested, opinion of said. al-Sistani


____________
In which part of Aus do u live in ?

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الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 22-12-2008, 09:24 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ المستفيد
المستفيد المستفيد غير متصل
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آخر تواجد: 13-03-2009 08:46 AM

الجنس:

الإقامة:

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: AlRa7eLe
i'm sure it will do, let me know wats goin on


Incidentally, I did not get the email that u left for me . unfortunately, it was deleted by the supervisor When I arrived
Hi dear sister , I did not saw any email here
Maybe our brother haneeen forget to mention it

التوقيع :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم










الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 22-12-2008, 09:37 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ المستفيد
المستفيد المستفيد غير متصل
عضو نشط جداً
 

رقم العضوية : 3141

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2002

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آخر تواجد: 13-03-2009 08:46 AM

الجنس:

الإقامة:

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: haneeen
oh are you talking about the time i wanted to send you my email addres? Yeh it got deleted i wanted to send it by private email they dont let me and they dont even let me to read the emails i recieve! This is not an inviting action for new members.

No email has been deleted

Abut the private email you can not send or receiver it untle ur participations reach 50 ,as this the fouem rules
I hope U understand what I mean

My regards

التوقيع :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم










الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 23-12-2008, 03:39 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ AlRa7eLe
AlRa7eLe AlRa7eLe غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 62172

تاريخ التّسجيل: Dec 2008

المشاركات: 81

آخر تواجد: 28-07-2010 01:36 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: End Of the world

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: المستفيد
Hi dear sister , I did not saw any email here
Maybe our brother haneeen forget to mention it



hi 2 my brother , not here it was in the forum which is for welcoming ,

haneen is brother or sister ??

any way , thank u very much dear brother al mostafeed

التوقيع :

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الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 23-12-2008, 09:15 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: المستفيد
Hi dear sister , I did not saw any email here
Maybe our brother haneeen forget to mention it


Salam brother,
I'm your sister Haneen

haneen is brother or sister ?? AlRa7eLe

Our sister AlRa7eLe seems to be doubting whether i'm a girl or a guy now
I'm a female wala, it says that on my profile, our brother just forgot, he did welcome me when I first joint and refered to me as a sister. Mistakes happen, its ok no problem

As sister AlRa7eLe said I didn't forget to mention it, i'll find it for you, its on another post





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الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 23-12-2008, 09:31 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: المستفيد
No email has been deleted

Abut the private email you can not send or receiver it untle ur participations reach 50 ,as this the fouem rules
I hope U understand what I mean

My regards



Salam brother,
Sister AlRa7eLe and I wanted to work together and help each other more thats why we wanted to exchange more details about each other. Right now she's asking me what state I live in and things and I don't feel very comfortable sharing too much details in forums.

I do respect your forum rules, but I only was explaining the situation for my sister, also I do not understand why this rule exists. In one of my posts there was a brother who used to reply to my questions then he sent me a private email (which I can not open) and I didn't hear anymore answers from him. Since I am a curious person I would realy want to read the email I recieve. But your rules restrict that. I assume the limit of fifty postings is there to encourage people to post more. I'm not sure.

this is the post that me and sister AlRa7eLe were talking about
رقم العضوية : 61764
تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008
المشاركات: 30
آخر تواجد: اليوم 06:01 PM
الجنس:
الإقامة:


إقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة AlRa7eLe
waaaowoo , and the last, who is the best thank u for ur warm welcoming, it's very nice of u to see u here. are u sure about my arabic? i know u just kidden or mybe it's just a big compliment ? hhh for fun , any way thank u very much for being here and for ur nice words

insha2 allah we will be a twin close sisters





Oh what a sweet way of putting it.. Inshallah 7abibti we will be twin close sisters.. very and very nice to see you too. This is my msn add me ....... I hope your in my state in Australia.. then you can really say nice to see you

I wanted to send my msn addres in a private email but it doesnt allow me. I hope no bad people will be bothering me, its a religious website any way so I'm not worried. ,

You know what sister, there is not much religious girls my age that are interested in learning about religion. Very happy to see another Iraqi girl living in Australia interested like me.

and you know what very nice to see how you were welcomed by many of the members here, I wasn't welcomed as much as you but yala we're twin sisters so nice to see my sister being welcomed like that.

I'm not kidding, and its not just a big compliment hun, your Arabic is good al7amdulilah. You also seem very confident in speaking Arabic. I'm shy when I speak Arabic lol You know I get suprised with myself sometimes how I can understand and write I just need
to practice and an Arabic keyboard because without an Arabic keyboard its tooo hard
Have a look at my arabic writings and tell me what you think , is it bad? lol ..

Oh sweetie how about if we work together? I write something in English and you can type it in Arabic and add more on it. I realy want to post things in the Arabic forum because i think there would be more responses there.

salam okhti el towam

يمنع وضع البريد الإكتروني

يمكنك إرسال بريدك في رسالة خاصة و ذلك بعد أن تتعدى مشاركاتك 50 مشاركة





Regards
Your sister Haneen

التوقيع :

الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 23-12-2008, 09:43 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: AlRa7eLe
Yeh, I know they look very serious in dealing with members , particularly the new ones,
sometimes.

The first link is as what u requested, opinion of said. al-Sistani


____________
In which part of Aus do u live in ?

Hi sister,
Since I can not tell you in private, and I'm not gona post any thing to reach the 50 to be able to send and recieve emails i'm gona tell you here. I actually live in the western side of Australia, What about you where do you live? I wish your living here as well

You know the second link you sent me, the members were quoting the sistani there as well, I realy like that forum, there were very different opinions but the tone of their writing is all respectful and they made good arguments. I was gona join it because of that but I thought I should take more time exploring this site instead, thank you again

التوقيع :

الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 23-12-2008, 10:25 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ المستفيد
المستفيد المستفيد غير متصل
عضو نشط جداً
 

رقم العضوية : 3141

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2002

المشاركات: 1,547

آخر تواجد: 13-03-2009 08:46 AM

الجنس:

الإقامة:

Oh dear sister haneeen ,I called U brother instead of sister by mistake

Sorry for this , but u should be happy u became a male , should'nt u ??
Any how most of the forums do not permit putting the emails as a public way











التوقيع :
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم











آخر تعديل بواسطة المستفيد ، 24-12-2008 الساعة 09:28 PM.
الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 24-12-2008, 02:40 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: المستفيد
Oh dear sister haneeen ,I called U brother instead of sister by mistake
Sorry for this , but u should be happy u became a male , should'nt u ??
Any how most of the forums do not permit putting the emails as a public way













Its ok brother, I knew it was just a mistake no worries. lol why should I be happy to be a male.. I'm very happy being a female Remeber Angels are females hehe

I was just complaining yesterday but all the sudden I found myself over 50 and can read and recieve emails, atlast I read the kind email by a brother today

oh and to sister AlRa7eLe I can send her my email now but she wont be able to read it since she's hasn't reached your 50 limit .

Thank you brother

التوقيع :


آخر تعديل بواسطة المستفيد ، 24-12-2008 الساعة 09:27 PM.
الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 24-12-2008, 09:24 PM
الصورة الرمزية لـ المستفيد
المستفيد المستفيد غير متصل
عضو نشط جداً
 

رقم العضوية : 3141

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2002

المشاركات: 1,547

آخر تواجد: 13-03-2009 08:46 AM

الجنس:

الإقامة:

إقتباس:
صاحب المشاركة الأصلية: haneeen


, atlast I read the kind email by a brother today




Be very careful sister of dealing with private emails


التوقيع :
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الرد مع إقتباس
قديم 27-12-2008, 09:10 AM
الصورة الرمزية لـ haneeen
haneeen haneeen غير متصل
عضو
 

رقم العضوية : 61764

تاريخ التّسجيل: Nov 2008

المشاركات: 72

آخر تواجد: 14-08-2010 06:33 PM

الجنس: أنثى

الإقامة: Iraq _ Australia

Thanks for your concern brother, but it was only advising me about a question I raised in one of my posts thats all

التوقيع :

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